I am the Physician on FIRE. No extinguishers required, I’m not about to stop, drop, or roll. In this case, FIRE is an acronym, as in, Financial Independence, Retire Early. I discovered the acronym about a year ago and learned that a whole bunch of good people on the internet have been dispensing valuable information on these two separate, but related topics of Financial Independence and Early Retirement.
Why the Physician on FIRE blog? After all, there are hundreds of personal finance blogs, with dozens focusing on early retirement. Well, I’ll be coming at you from the perspective of a physician. People like us have a very different career path than the engineer / CPA / businessman, etc… Our careers tend to get off the ground much later in life. Many finish school and training with ridiculous debt.
The job can be quite stressful for a whole bunch of reasons beyond our control (true in many professions, but in ours, the stakes can be higher). Fortunately, we tend to have solid incomes and with adequate knowledge and planning, the ability to achieve the freedom that comes with financial independence can still be attained at a reasonable age.
What Do You Mean, “On FIRE”?
What do I mean by financial independence? Simply put, you are FI when you have saved and invested enough money so that you no longer have to work to fund your everyday life. Your current and future expenses are covered because you were diligent, clever, and perhaps lucky enough to have built up a big fat pile of cash.
How big? The going rate seems to be about 25 to 33 times your annual expenses, allowing for a 4% or 3% rate of withdrawal each year. Obviously, the required size of that pile is directly proportional to your spending. The more you spend (or plan on spending later), the more you need.
Personally, I earned my FI merit badge last year at the age of 39. I have no plans to retire anytime soon, but I do plan to retire early. Until that day comes, I have the great satisfaction of knowing that I am showing up for work because I choose to be there for my patients, not because I need the money.
To Retire Early will not only complete the FIRE acronym, but I believe it will also lead to a happier life for my family and me, and that is the ultimate goal. I may have another ten or more working years in me; I may hang up the stethoscope for good in five. There are too many variables to try to nail that down just yet.
As long as I remain reasonably happy in my career, the benefit of working at least a few more years will more than justify the occasional (OK, frequent) stressful day or restless night on the job.
If you start to read the forums and blogs on Early Retirement, you will find quite a few people who have retired in their twenties and thirties. Unlike most physicians, they didn’t wait to get their first decent paycheck in their early thirties or have a 6-figure debt complicating matters.
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A Physician on FIRE
So what age qualifies for an early retirement for a physician? Thirties would have to be considered extreme. There just isn’t a whole lot of time for saving and compounding. I would guess most physicians who retire in their thirties have unique circumstances, like a large inheritance, a high-earning spouse still working, or unfortunate circumstances leading to a forced early retirement. Here’s hoping my early retirement isn’t accompanied by a mug shot on the evening news.
My best guess is that I’ll feel ready to retire at some point in my mid-forties. I envision the trigger to be some combination of “I have enough” and “I’ve had enough”. To retire before reaching the half century mark would be considered early in most professions, but even more so in medicine.
I would consider the the first half of the 50’s to be early as well. For many physicians, you’re talking about a roughly 20-year career at that point. I recently read an article about a 57-year old internist retiring early. The 82-year old part time doc being interviewed for the story couldn’t imagine walking away at such a young age. It’s all about perspective.One last thing about me, the Physician on FIRE: Occasionally, I get a bit FIRED UP (just plain angry, no acronym here) about the state of modern medicine and the changing role of the physician. While the primary focus of this blog will be on the ways and whys of financial independence, I will occasionally touch on some of the more frustrating aspects of being a physician today.
Overall, I enjoy my work and will continue to be a practicing doctor for some time, but sometimes I can’t help but just shake my head. Those head shakes just might lead to some interesting blog posts and discussion. I’ll also discuss some of the positive aspects or our profession. After all, I tend to be a glass half full kind of guy.
Each of these paragraphs could easily be expanded into it’s own blog post, and probably will eventually. I plan to post twice a week until I run out of stories, ideas, or readers. I don’t see that happening any time soon.
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You have brought up a very excellent points, appreciate it
for the post.
I’m new to PoF and very interested. I’m also new to any interest in personal finance but it’s becoming an acquired taste the more I read of your blog. This is the first place I’ve read about FI, so please explain a basic concept to me: why do you use 25 or 33 when calculating your FIRE age if you plan on retiring at 43, as it seems to me that you’ll likely live longer than 25 or 33 years after retirement?
If your money is invested, you can expect to earn better than a 0% real return, so there’s an excellent chance your money will last longer than the multiple of expenses you’ve saved. The median outcome in one study was to end up with 2.7x as much money as you started with after 30 years.
For a deep dive into safe withdrawal rates and the math behind them, check out the SWR series from Big ERN, a Ph.D. economist.
Cheers!
-PoF
Second year medical student here. Who just found your site via post you made on MMM. Long time MMM/ERE/WCI reader. Glad to see there is another site for physicians. Reading MMM and ERE I am often frustrated because people talk about retiring as you said in their 20’s or lower 30’s. Thats when i will get my first paycheck! So the modification towards a practical physicians timeline is well worth its own consideration. From what i have seen PoF is high caliber stuff. Keep it coming.
Hey, Thanks, JS!
Yes, we have a different timeline, for sure. Some advantages and some disadvantages. I’m glad you found me here, and I hope to continue putting out content you enjoy.
Cheers!
-PoF
I look forward to reading your blog in detail! I am in the latter half of residency and have been interested in FIRE principles since taking some personal finance classes in college. My wife and I are debt free minus a low interest mortgage in a growing west coast city. We are saving half our combined income and plan to continue to do so moving forward.
I’m glad you found my site. Tell all your friends! Enemies, too.
From what you’ve said, you are doing a lot of things right. FI is certainly in your future, and RE if you are ready when the time comes.
Cheers!
-PoF