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Rich Friends, Poor Friends

My mother always used to tell me, you are the company you keep.

If you hang around with troublemakers as a kid, chances are, you’ll go through at least a troublemaking phase yourself.

If you pal with the studious folks, then you improve your shot at good grades and habits.

Does it work with money, too? Does hanging around with rich friends beget a larger bank account? Would hanging around with less-fortunate friends mean your chances at building significant wealth are lower?

Monevator takes a look.

 

 

Surrounding yourself with rich friends is a well-known strategy for making more money.

By spending time with rich friends, the theory goes, you will automatically:

  • See having lots of money as normal
  • Get over negative money beliefs
  • Think positively about growing your finances
  • Try harder to improve your lot
  • Copy what your rich friends do to get richer

In my 20s, I read through books about making money the way others of my generation popped certain feel-good pills.

And most of those books urged their readers to abandon friends who had a poverty mindset.

Instead, you should look to have rich friends going places.

It’s true that maverick self-made millionaires such as Richard Branson, Duncan Bannatyne, and Theo Paphitis don’t seem to need peers as role models.

What’s more, the modern networked economy has made it easier than ever for unsociable techno-nerds to make serious money. Just think of all the crypto-millionaires who mined made-up money in their basements.

But for most of us, moving in wealthier circles will raise our expectations – and potentially our bank balances.

Even Warren Buffett’s best friends include fellow billionaires Charlie Munger and Bill Gates.

 

A Rich Vein of Study

 

There’s plenty of scientific research to back up this folksy-sounding advice.

To give a recent example, in a major study published in 2022 a team led by Harvard economist Raj Chetty studied the social networks of more than 70 million Facebook users to see if they could correlate their social capital with their financial wealth.

As Business Insider reports, out of three ways of measuring social capital:

…the only one actually linked to upward economic mobility is friendships with people from a higher socioeconomic status.

In fact, if lower-income kids grew up in areas that have the same economic connectedness as higher-income kids’ neighborhoods, their future earnings increase by an average of 20%.

The alternative – an educational system where a lot of rich kids are segregated into their own schools – is bad for social mobility. (And for our politics).

One kink I noticed from the New Scientist reporting is that the Harvard team estimated income levels via the proxy data of each Facebook user’s mobile phone model.

More than 15 years as a personal finance blogger makes me wonder – were some of those apparently upwardly-mobile friends of richer people just flashing a fancy handset to keep up appearances?

Presumably, the academics eliminated the risk of such social striving from affecting their results.

 

Big Fish, Small Pond

 

There’s just one snag with the strategy of having richer friends, especially in childhood.

I’ll illustrate it via a slightly stylized story about an ex-girlfriend.

My ex – let’s call her Catherine – is a talented violin player. From the age of seven, she showed great promise with the instrument. By her early teens, she was established as the best bow in town.

Catherine enjoyed being the lead violinist in her school orchestra. But she knew she could push her talent further than her school could take her. Most of her friends might as well have been banging on saucepans for all they could inspire her.

Catherine’s teacher agreed she was being held back. He arranged for her to go to weekend classes in London at a fairly prestigious music school.

At last, she’d be among musicians of her own caliber!

To cut a long story short, they were indeed better than her – and she didn’t like it one bit. No longer was Catherine the biggest fish in a small pond. In fact, by her own estimation, she was the worst musician at the new school.

Catherine continued to attend the classes because she was too ashamed to retreat to her old school colleagues. But she admits that her heart wasn’t in it. When she went to university, she didn’t even bother to join the music society.

Could Catherine have tried harder? Perhaps. Many people respond to competition, but some are too timid. A shy person, Catherine wilted in the light of others.

Yet the fact is she can play beautifully compared to 99% of people who ever pick up a violin.

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Rich Friends When You Need Them

 

If Catherine had never gone to the elite music classes, she’d probably have had a happier childhood. She might still be playing her violin today.

Similarly, you will make more money if you meet rich friends, but you’ll likely feel miserable.

As Financial Accountant magazine reported:

Researchers from Warwick Business School in the UK found that people who earned more than others in their “reference group” – that is, those of the same age, gender, religion or nationality – were more likely to feel happy with their lives.

Warwick professor of behavioural sciences Nick Powdthavee said that people actually care “very little” about the actual figure they earn, but they are concerned with how their income compares to those around them.

“For example, their sense of wellbeing is more likely to be influenced by whether they are fifth or 40th highest-paid person in their workplace, rather than their precise salary,” he explained.

So do you want to be rich or would you rather be happy?

Perhaps the best solution is to decide who your real friends are – as distinct from who is in your wealth creation circle.

Spend quality time with your true friends for a pick-me-up, and hang out with your rich friends when you see your income sliding!

Contrived? Maybe. It’s not easy being rich.

 

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7 thoughts on “Rich Friends, Poor Friends”

  1. I’ve found that I’m happiest when I have casual “work friend” relationships with people who earn more than me, but also when I carve out a niche identity for myself as someone who is anti-materialistic, anti-consumerist, and who sees money as a way to buy freedom (from bad jobs, bad relationships, etc. as well as future freedom from working) and memorable experiences with her family and friends (travel, etc.).

    My closest, everyday friendships, I prefer to maintain with people who also march to the beat of their own drums, and who aren’t big spenders nor misers, but who also recognize that money is just money, and you can always make more of it.

    I avoid conversations about home renovations, luxury vacations, new cars, private schools, and other things that I have no desire to bring into my life. When I start to feel the green monster bite me, in response to seeing someone else’s new shiny object or social feed, I remind myself that they are peacocking, and I can, in fact, afford to buy a bunch of pretty feathers to flash at the world, too… I just choose not to. 😉

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  3. I’ve found that I’m happiest when I have casual “work friend” relationships with people who earn more than me, but also when I carve out a niche identity for myself as someone who is anti-materialistic, anti-consumerist, and who sees money as a way to buy freedom (from bad jobs, bad relationships, etc. as well as future freedom from working) and memorable experiences with her family and friends (travel, etc.).

    My closest, everyday friendships, I prefer to maintain with people who also march to the beat of their own drums, and who aren’t big spenders nor misers, but who also recognize that money is just money, and you can always make more of it.

    I avoid conversations about home renovations, luxury vacations, new cars, private schools, and other things that I have no desire to bring into my life. When I start to feel the green monster bite me, in response to seeing someone else’s new shiny object or social feed, I remind myself that they are peacocking, and I can, in fact, afford to buy a bunch of pretty feathers to flash at the world, too… I just choose not to. 😉

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  4. It makes sense that being in wealthier circles can increase your motivation to make more, but also spend more to keep up with their “taste” Isn’t that where the whole “keeping up with the Joneses” became a thing? We want to be friends with them, but internally may not be happy because they are not authentic, meaningful friendships.

    Very true that it’s best to be friends with the right people, and then mix with the wealthy when you need to get your affairs in better order!

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  5. It makes sense that being in wealthier circles can increase your motivation to make more, but also spend more to keep up with their “taste” Isn’t that where the whole “keeping up with the Joneses” became a thing? We want to be friends with them, but internally may not be happy because they are not authentic, meaningful friendships.

    Very true that it’s best to be friends with the right people, and then mix with the wealthy when you need to get your affairs in better order!

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  6. I spend a significant amount of time rubbing shoulders with true billionaires. For historical reasons our small town rural area has a little cluster of immense wealth. And none of them make me feel badly that I do not have my own island and private jet like some of them. I’m very happy with my life and they seem equally happy with theirs.

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  7. To be fair, the Chetty papers aren’t actually looking at the effects of having rich friends, but of having middle class and upper middle class friends.

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  8. I don’t pick my friends because of their wealth. I have good friends who are both rich and those who are of more moderate means. Likewise some members of my own family are relatively wealthy who others are lower down the wealth list. My only regret and desire is to add more friends across the ethnic, racial and cultural spectrum. I have often felt that a homeless individual has experiences that are just as valuable as anyone in the upper echelon of society.

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