Saturday Selection: Stupid Doctor Tricks-Biggest Financial Mistakes
This classic post from Dr. Jim Dahle originally appeared on The White Coat Investor. It is the first in a series of posts detailing dozens of money mistakes physicians have admitted to making.
Luckily, these mistakes pale in comparison to financial errors made by some of our colleagues. A recent thread on Sermo revealed a lot of the mistakes other physicians have made before you, and I’ve detailed them below in this and the other 3 posts in this series. Consider this a financial “Morbidity and Mortality Conference.” Painful to listen to sometimes, but better than having to make each mistake on your own. Add your experiences as a comment at the end of this post.
Addendum: I originally posted this within a couple months of starting the blog. It has remained one of the most popular pages on the entire website, so I thought I’d give it a revamp, splitting up the original super-long post into 4 separate posts, making it easier to read, and categorizing some of the mistakes. Don’t worry though, all 175 mistakes are still here.
Getting Ripped Off
1) Working with a “financial planner” who specializes in working with physicians and almost got me into whole life insurance
2) Overpaying for legal advice ($3500 to review an employment contract)
3) Buying a universal variable life insurance policy as an “estate plan”
4) Investing with Bernie Madoff
5) Listening to brokers/financial planners/coin dealers
6) Not realizing that the goal of brokers is to take your money and make it theirs
7) Giving OTHERS control of substantial sums of MY money
8) Hiring an expert to manage my money. This guy charged 1% per year on the balance. Got a call from the fraud division of the FBI and they seized all my money. After about 2 yrs sweating got it back without interest. Taught me to learn about investing. I decided I may not be a pro, but I won’t steal my own money
9) Investing (before I learned about personal finance) through a professional who gave “free” advice steering me to load mutual funds and life insurance with high fees
10) Listening to an attending during med school for stock pick advice
11) Paying a lawyer to do my tax returns for 10 years . . . He charged $10,000 for a return that a national tax preparation company does for $1,500 or less
12) Allowing myself to get talked into a variable annuity when i was a chief resident. Bought it at roughly market peak; it sank w. market in 2001-2002; paid lots of charges and surrender charges when I got rid of it three years later to buy my first house, and due to nature of variable annuity, I didn’t even get to write the losses off on my taxes…. Stay away from those RIPOFF variable annuities; get a tax-deferred or even taxable account like everyone else
13) Relying on money managers for too great a percentage of my net worth… It’s best to learn enough to oversee a lot of your assets on your own
14) Bought front loaded mutual funds
15) Getting ripped off to the tune of 11 k for a real estate closing by my lawyer who charged by the hour. Took his fees right out of the mortgage check before I ever saw it
16) Buying time share, buying variable annuity, buying whole life insurance and depending on brokers to make financial decisions
17) Stock tips from friends, relatives , or cab drivers should be avoided at all costs Those free financial newsletters are just scams. What they touted are probably their own holding which they will sell when your rush to buy them pushes up the stock price transiently before they fall off the cliff
There is a common theme here and it is one I tackle frequently on this blog. You need to be very aware of how, and how much your advisors are paid. This includes financial planners, stock brokers, insurance agents, realtors, attorneys, accountants, and investment managers.
As a general rule, people don’t go into these fields for the same reason firemen and kindergarten teachers choose their jobs. There is no Hippocratic Oath among financial professionals. It is your job to understand how much you’re paying and whether that is a fair price. Understanding how the person advising you makes their money also helps you understand their conflicts of interest. Learn everything you ever wanted to know about financial advisors here.
1) Not buying disability insurance
2) Mentioned a few divorce-related situation depression issues resolved in the past on a disability insurance application
3) Not getting OWN-OCCUPATION disability insurance on the first day of residency
4) Bought too much useless, expensive insurance
Well, no one said they wished they’d bought more life insurance. Of course, there’s a real survivorship bias there. All those dead guys who should have bought more aren’t here to tell us. Buy plenty of the insurance you need and avoid the insurance you don’t. Learn more about buying insurance here.
Personal Finance Issues
1) Using credit cards
2) Buying too big of a house
3) Should have listened to Dave Ramsey and completed his course about 8 years earlier
4) Spent too much on a wedding
5) Credit card debt in med school
6) Marrying a fiscally irresponsible spouse
7) Spending $600 to replace the clutch on a $1000 car then donating it to charity 2 months later
8) Sending my kids to a private college in the future (50K a year, what a waste!)
9) Quitting one job before I had another(thankfully savings helped me through that transition)
10) Buying a used jeep and not noting it was burning out its engine from an oil leak
11) Signed up for AOL when it first came out. Had automatic recurring credit card charges of $24.95 a month for over 14 years (wife paid the bills) for essentially nothing that you cannot get for free now. Just stopped it when our credit card had to be changed. Be aware of recurring automatic charges
12) Not saving as much as possible early in my career to take advantage of compound interest
13) Allowing lifestyle to creep upwards with increasing financial success
14) Keeping the house in the divorce – I had to spend $76K repairing it to then short-sell at a >$200K loss. I’ll be paying on the loan I had to take for the repairs for the next 15 years
15) Giving my daughter a credit card (for “emergencies”) when she entered college in Boston
16) Not starting 529 plans for kids early enough, not investing aggressively enough
There you have it. A lot of accumulated experience that may save you thousands. Add your experiences to the comments below.
These are mistakes made every day by millions of people. They aren’t particularly specific to doctors, but doctors certainly make them as much or more than other people. Spend less than you earn, be wise with your cash, and if, heaven forbid you get divorced, take the 401K, not the house.
This is the end of Stupid Doctor Tricks Part 1 of 4. Continue on to Part 2, Part 3, or Part 4. Or better yet, leave a comment below noting one or more of your own financial errors. Too many of us feel that talking about money is taboo, so we just keep making the same mistakes over and over again. Share your experiences and let others benefit from them, just as you’ve benefited from seeing others’ mistakes.
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[PoF: Physicians are intelligent people, but we are somewhat notorious for making unintelligent choices with our money. Collectively, along with The White Coat Investor and other physician financial bloggers, we’re trying to change that reputation one reader at a time.
I haven’t written a biggest mistakes post, but my 5 Things I’d Tell My Younger Self pretty well covers them. What’s the biggest money mistake you’ve made or have seen a colleague make?]
13 thoughts on “Stupid Doctor Tricks — Biggest Financial Mistakes”
Thanks for this financial “M&M” post. I agree with everything stated here. I’m early in my medical career, having finished residency 3 years ago. I’m trying to learn more about about personal finance, but in the mean time I have an advisor from Larson Financial. WCI stated that they give good advice, but they major disadvantage is their high fees on AUM (which I agree are pretty high). Currently I don’t have a a ton of assets with them so my fee expenses are not extravagant, but my goal is to learn as much as possible about personal finance so that I can cut ties with them and be an DIY investor like you, WCI, MMM, and others in the FIRE community.
And thanks for your helpful blog. It is inspiring me to start my own blog… 🙂
AUM fees seem tiny, often 1% or less, but when you have a 7-figure portfolio, 1% is $10,000 or more per year. It may be a small percentage of your portfolio, but can be a significant chunk of your annual spending (if you choose to see it as such, which you should).
As I’ve said before, investment fees can cost you millions. It’s worth your time to learn to DIY.
I would just ask those who run these websites who their targeted customers are? Those who benefit from straight forward simple advice such as 3 fund portfolios or to those who have the capacity and willingness to take on more complex strategies. My guess is that the only people that should be taking on those risk are getting most of their information other places and know how to put in the research.
I find it interesting that a lot of these posted doctors mistakes are the very things, complex and real estate, WCI is now undertaking despite his own advice to keep it simple.
Reading through the 38 “mistakes” in this post, I can name 2 to 3 that Dr. Dahle is guilty of.
1. Using credit cards (which can be beneficial when done right)
2. Buying too big of a house (he does have 4 kids, but admits to using the basement only when hosting guests)
3. Allowing lifestyle to creep upwards with increasing financial success (although his savings rate has only increased despite a moderate uptick in spending)
It’s true that he’s made some investments that are inconsistent with a three-fund portfolio, including buying a portion of this website. I, for one, am not going to fault him for that.
I have seen the same behavior in many others and that is how many get in trouble. Just because you have a higher income, higher networth and the investment opportunities that both those bring, does not mean that you are suddenly smarter then the rest of the crowd. I think the results of many hedge funds and private equity have shown us that.
Good point about the hedge funds and private equity. I think its very true also. There are few times that paying more will give you any real edge for the extra cost. And in those cases you wont know till 5 or 10 years later when you see the annual returns. Was it skill or luck? If they beat the index, by how much and at what risk?
If your savings rate is continuing to climb and you have a large enough three fund portfolio to fully fund a comfortable retirment, I can see the allure of investing in real estate to diversify risk even more.
There is a big difference between dumping all your eggs in multifamliy housing while you try to run a practice, and having it as a small percentage of your portfolio that is mainly there to diversify risk and possibly increase returns for your heirs.
Tom @ HIP
There is a massive difference between fee only financial planners and fee based (or commission) financial planners.
Overall great write up! #2 on buying a house that is too big (finacially) and #4 with paying too much for the wedding are very very true. It’s always a main topic of discussion with my clients.
My dad gave me a credit card for gas, and textbooks when I was in college. I used it for gas, and text books. I used my summer job money when we wanted to order Chinese food, or go to Friday’s.
I hadn’t seen this on WCI before, really interesting read. Seems like so many of these mistakes were made from a lack of education. Good thing PoF and WCI are out there to educate the doctoring masses. Do you think they’ll ever be a financial literacy class in med school? Thanks for sharing this list PoF!
I believe WCI is working on a financially literacy course for med students, actually. It’s long overdue.
That’ll be a great resource!